Dale Boyer is a funny lady. Acclaimed actress, writer and improviser Boyer (pronounced Boy-é) studied with the Second City and went on to star in four mainstage revues, winning awards along the way, including a Canadian Comedy Award for Best Comedic Play. Last summer she said goodbye to Second City and hello to the world, starring in a new web series which is taking the internet by storm. Ms. Boyer sits down with Improv inTO to discuss her beginnings in comedy, success as a comedienne, and her latest project, taking her improv in new and wacky directions, Live from the CenTre.
How did you get started in acting and improv?
Dale Boyer (DB): I did a lot of it in high school, but my high school didn’t have an improv group, so I started my own. Then I went to the University of Waterloo to become an actor and I thought ‘I’m gonna be a serious actor.’ My last year there this voice woman said to me “You know, you should go do Second City.” I came to Toronto and after a year I quit my job as a stage manager and said that’s what I’m doing.
What were some of your early gigs?
DB: When I first started in Toronto, I started with a group called the Holy Diaphragms. We did long form rock operas. I had just gotten out of university, and we did the Cage Match through the Impatients. [Impatient Theatre Co] hosted the Cage Match and we won six or seven weeks in a row. We were dominating. Then we got sent to Chicago as part of the Super Cage Match Chicago Improv Festival and went up against people from New Zealand and all over the world…We did so bad in Chicago. But we did a lot with the Holy Diaphragms and that was my start with improv officially.
And then I did Tony n’ Tina’s Wedding. I did other theatre gigs along the way, but Tony n’ Tina’s Wedding was a big hit for me.
[After Tony n’ Tina’s Wedding] we started (sketch comedy troupe) Shame Is Right!. We did Shame Is Right! for a couple years, won some awards with that. I guess someone took notice, probably Klaus [Schuller] at Second City, and hired me for the [Second City] Touring Company.
Not only are you an improviser, you’re a writer. Where do you get your ideas from?
DB: I consume a lot of media. I watch a lot of news and I listen to a lot of news, and I rip it. My husband Trevor [Martin] and I rip the news apart. I think the news is probably one of the funniest things to watch on TV. It’s infuriating and very, very funny. I’m usually issue-driven.
Who were some of your role models?
DB: I didn’t realize until last year how much SCTV had influenced me, until I got the box sets of all the SCTV and I started watching them from the beginning, and realized, how much I knew and had already seen, and how much I loved Andrea Martin. I was definitely affected by that
When I was a teenager, I used to record Saturday Night Live. I asked my parents for Christmas for another VCR and then I would take my favourite sketches and put them on another tape and have a tape of all my favourite sketches. I did that for years. I probably still have them somewhere.
What was your favourite show to work on at the Second City?
DB: My favourite show was Something Wicked Awesome This Way Comes. Definitely my favourite show.
And that won an award.
DB: It won a Canadian Comedy Award, and it was also the top grossing show, to date, that [Second City] had in their new building. It was such a satisfying show to work on because you felt like you actually could address issues. Things I wanted to address I could, and I was given a voice to do that, through the director.
You and your castmates wrote Something Wicked Awesome This Way Comes?
DB: Yep, and Chris Earle, who was the director, and Matt Reid, who [was] the musical director…yeah, sometimes you just click with a director, I clicked with him.
Tell me a bit about your latest project, Live from the CenTre
DB: I left Second City with Adam Cawley and Rob Baker. We all got hired at the same time into Tour Co. We spent two years there together. And then we all got moved to Mainstage at the same time, which is unusual to have three people move up at once. And we did four shows together. So by that point we had spent four years together and had quite a good short hand with each other and we got along very well. And we’re very different performers which is helpful. Chris Earle, who directed Wicked Awesome, who I had a great connection with – the night that we left Second City, he was like “I think you guys are all so talented, I can’t wait to work with you one day again, do you want to work tomorrow and create a web series?”
This was just after your last performance?
DB: This was literally the day we were leaving Second City. [Chris Earle] said, “Brian Smith (You and Media) and I want to do a web series. We think the three of you would be great to star in this web series.”
Obviously I was like ‘Yes, that’s awesome!’
So we sat down, we talked and [Chris] said “You know, Second City does all this work to nurture and build an ensemble, and then when you leave Second City, you really don’t work with those people again, unless you happen to get into a commercial together, you happen to get on a series together. You get to do shows at Comedy Bar and things like that, but you don’t get to work in that kind of capacity, and you’ve worked all these years at building an ensemble. Before you all go off on your separate ways, why don’t we take advantage of it, and do a web series?”
How did you create Live from the CenTre?
DB: We basically went about creating the CenTre in the same style as you would create a revue style show at Second City. So I think it is a unique experience the way that we put it together. Rehearsals, writing meetings, that weren’t writing meetings per se, they were like pitch meetings the way you would have at Second City. Days on set were treated like Second City. We just improvised in front of the camera, in the moment, and treated it really like that.
How long does it take to tape one webisode?
DB: Each webisode has three or four elements in it. We do the interviews in one take. We don’t do them twice. All those things you’re seeing are improvised, first time, that’s it. One go at it. Unless, let’s say I have a really good line, and I screwed up saying it – I can just pause, and say it again, and it will get edited. Apart from that, it’s completely unscripted, and it’s one time through, and that’s it. The interviews are 10 minutes long and we just take our favourite five minutes from it.
So are any scenes written?
DB: Some have premises, so for example, I’ll use the example of my own “Incubator Project.” I come in with a premise, like “Incubator Project,” and I say to Brian, all you’re getting is “Incubator Project.” So, he doesn’t know the questions he’s asking me, and I don’t know what’s he’s going to ask me, and I don’t know really what my responses are. I just know that I have a character that I’ve dressed for and I know the name of my company. That’s it.
Yeah, or like “Green to Grave” for example. I was like – I’m really interested in green funerals. I think that’s a really interesting and funny idea, and like how they dispose of the bodies, I think is gross and funny, and I said to Rob and Adam, these are some things that they do, let’s just go further: Bring a suit. Cause we’re going to be undertakers, funeral directors, bring a suit. And then Brian knew it was a funeral service. And then everything else is improvised.
So what has the response been like for Live from the CenTre?
DB: It’s funny, a lot of people don’t realize it’s improvised. I think that’s a great compliment. A lot of people think it’s written, which is funny, cause some of them are so improvised that we don’t even know what the title’s going to be or what our names are going to be. Like “Parking Doctors,” [Brian] said to us, “And we have the Parking Doctors” and we just made it up. Right there.
No idea what you’re going to be doing?
DB: No idea. First take. That’s all it was. Those were our characters. That’s what we did.
It’s been really good. It’s interesting, some people think it’s real. Some people don’t know what to think about it. It’s had a lot of hits in Europe. We hit 50,000 views today.
And you just launched this on March 1.
DB: March 1. And today is [March] 26th. So we’ve gotten 50,000 views in 26 days.
DB: It’s fantastic. We’ve partnered with DailyMotion.com. When you have a good episode, it gets picked up for the front pages in different countries. So like today, it’s been picked up in Romania, and Ireland and Austria and China, and then all these other countries see it, all these other people see it.
Where do you hope to see Live from the CenTre go?
DB: It’s interesting with web series, because we’re in a pioneer time in this world. Advertisers don’t know how to take advantage of the talent that’s happening and at the same time it’s hard to monetize what you’re doing because you could say you have 50,000 hits or 5 million hits and an advertiser will go, ‘I don’t know how to give you money for that, or I don’t know if I want to give you money for that, or should we bank roll your next series?’
The world doesn’t really know what to do with web series yet, but Canadians are watching so many of them, so I don’t know what’s going to happen.
Even in the year that this web series has come out – it’s almost been about a year since we’ve started – already so much has changed in the industry.
Would you want to keep this strictly to the web or would you consider moving this forward?
DB: I do think it has legs to become a narrative or a series of some sort. It obviously would have to be expanded past the 6 minute mark that it is right now.
The Simpsons started with even shorter than that.
DB: On the Tracy Ullman show, it’s true, it’s true.
I mean the bible’s there, the series bible is made. You can see the characters. And the crazy thing is, and I think this is something that is unusual, is the three of us are playing all the characters. I play like 15 different characters in the series, like Rob does, Adam does. We all play – everybody.
And the three of you have really good chemistry.
DB: We’ve worked together a long time, and we respect each other, and we’ve loved and fought each other – a lot. Yeah, I’ve had good fights with all of them. It’s good, it’s good for art.
How can people learn more about Live from the CenTre?
DB: They can go to LiveFromTheCenTre.com. The website is a big world. There are member posts, which are all written by us, there are articles, there are events, there are all the different organizations, and we’ve spent months writing all that.
What advice would you give to someone studying improv?
DB: I would say to take workshops and classes from many different sources. Each place has its own philosophy: Second City, Bad Dog, Impatients, in Toronto. They have different philosophies, some are long form, some are short form. I think it’s good to know all of those things and to find the philosophy that works for you. Because what’s right for one may not be right for another. The people that I’ve worked with have come from all different types of learning.
The other thing I would say is to find your voice, and do what you care about. Cause otherwise, if you’re just chasing the funny, it’s always going to be elusive, and it’s never going to be satisfying.
And finally have a hobby that has nothing to do with comedy or improv. And live a life, and have friends that aren’t improvisers, and try to be a normal person.
Live from the CenTre is shot in Toronto and stars Dale Boyer, Rob Baker, Adam Cawley, Brian G. Smith and Chris Earle. Visit their website LiveFromTheCenTre.com or follow them on twitter @TheCenTreLive
– Cindy Hackelberg